Last Updated on December 7, 2023
Have you been experiencing excessive oil consumption in your Ford F-150 vehicle equipped with 5.0L Coyote engine? If so, you may be part of a new class action lawsuit. The plaintiffs in the suit allege that these engines contain a manufacturing defect that causes excessive oil consumption leading to engine failure.
A class action lawsuit has been filed against Ford on behalf of owners and lessees of 2018-2020 Ford F-150 vehicles containing the 5.0L Coyote engines.
According to the lawsuit and law firms involved, a recent investigation revealed these F-150 models may be prone to excessive engine oil consumption. This defect allegedly causes the vehicles to burn through engine oil at a faster rate and forces the owner or lessee to replenish the engine oil in their vehicle more frequently than normal.
It may also result in increased emissions and reduced fuel efficiency. In some instances, when consumers brought their vehicles to a Ford dealership and complained of engine oil consumption, they have been told the issue is normal or that the owner is at fault and have been denied coverage for the repair under the new vehicle warranty.
Why Are These Vehicles Consuming Engine Oil?
According to the class action lawsuit, the F-150 Coyote engines allow engine oil to pass by the piston rings and into the combustion chambers where it is burned off during the combustion cycle, thereby reducing the amount of engine oil in the engines.
In addition to the alleged issues with the piston rings, the lawsuit alleges the oil consumption issues are compounded by an inadequate positive crankshaft ventilation (PCV) system.
Does Ford Have A Fix?
In December 2019, Ford issued a fourth technical service bulletin (TSB 19-2365) regarding the 2018-2019 F-150 vehicles with Coyote engines.
According to the lawsuit, this TSB attributed the excessive oil consumption to the possibility of high intake manifold vacuum during deceleration fuel shut off (DFSO) resulting in oil being pulled into the combustion chamber.
The proposed correction under the TSB includes reprogramming of powertrain control module (“PCM”), installing a new engine oil level indicator (a/k/a “dipstick”) and changing the engine oil and oil filter.
Most notably, the revised dipstick “uses a wider 1.9 liter (2 quart) normal operating range.” According to the lawsuit, rather than adequately repair the Oil Consumption Defect, Ford simply lowered the minimum fill level on the revised dipstick to mask the oil consumption problem in the Class Vehicles.
The complaint states that this change means that a dipstick reading that was once at or below the minimum fill line, previously requiring an engine replacement, and perhaps caused customers to become alarmed or concerned with excessive oil consumption, is now considered normal and within Ford’s acceptable parameters.
The case claims that this change only sought to save Ford the cost of repairs and did nothing to correct the Oil Consumption Defect.
Owners Forced To Add Oil More Frequently Than Expected
Owners of the MY2018-2020 Ford F-150 must take on an unexpected burden of checking and filling their engine’s oil much more frequently than reasonably expected.
In fact, more frequently than even Ford represents in the F-150 Owner’s Manual.
Some mechanics may recommend adding more oil than the factory calls for as a quick solution to the consumption problem. However, over-filling the oil pan or sump is not a solution.
If the oil pan is filled above its optimal level, marked by the maximum fill line, the crankshaft will be submerged partially or fully.
When operating in this condition, the crankshaft will cause aeration or foaming of the oil, which in turn reduces the efficacy of the lubrication system and thus lubrication of the engine.
Excess oil will also strain and then damage the gaskets and seals protecting the engine, leading to more significant oil leaks.
Unfortunately, even when vehicle owners are successful in maintaining the proper oil level in their engines, problems remain because oil is leaking inside the engine.
The oil consumption defect does not cause the Class Vehicles’ engines to simply use more oil; it allows oil to migrate to places it should not be.
Excessive oil residue and the by-products of burning oil will then damage the combustion and exhaust systems and keep them from operating efficiently or even adequately over time.
Vehicles Affected
The following Ford F-150 vehicles are affected by the oil consumption lawsuit:
- 2018 Ford F-150
- 2019 Ford F-150
- 2020 Ford F-150
Currently, the 2018 Ford F-150 is the most reported model year for oil consumption complaints.
Status of the Ford F-150 Oil Consumption Class Action Litigation
This is an active class action lawsuit. This suit has been brought on behalf of the Plaintiffs and a class of current and former Ford F-150 vehicle owners and lessees.
Lyman, et al., v. Ford Motor Company. Case No.: 2:21-cv-10024-GAD-EAS and was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan.
Ford F-150 Owners’ Voices
At about 15k miles I noticed the oil low in the engine. Took it to the dealer and they reprogrammed the computer and installed a new dipstick. The engine also started to stumble alot at low rpm’s and will shut down randomly. Took it back to the dealer and they refuse to go any further and now my truck is out of warranty. It smokes alot especially after idling. There is no oil leaks that I can find at all. It consumes about 2 quarts of oil per 5000 miles. Total miles now is 82000 and I can’t trust that it won’t brake down at any moment. I hope someone can help because Ford doesn’t seem to care at all. Thank you!
Ford F-150 Owner Complaint
Oil consumption Wearing engine out. After oil change 1 week later low on oil, when low sounds like I am over heating.
Ford F-150 Owner Complaint
My truck has the 2018 5.0 coyote engine and is consuming excessive amounts of oil. It uses about a quart of oil every 1500 miles. The fuel mileage is also less than 16 miles per gallon even on the highway. I have not bothered to call the dealership. I bought this truck used and changing the dipstick will not fix the issue only mask it.
Ford F-150 Owner Complaint
Ford has rebuilt my engine 2 times, at 23K and 42K. I feel like it will give out any day as more engine noises are occurring. Ford has been good on response and have had the vehicle a week each time and have provided a loaner vehicle during the repairs.
Ford F-150 Owner Complaint
F150 is burning oil that engine light comes on. It is only three years old. Checked dipstick and the oil does not register although the oil was just changed 3000 miles earlier. Called a Ford dealership and the service representative said he does not know if the warranty covers oil consumption…
Ford F-150 Owner Complaint
How To Join The Ford F-150 Oil Consumption Lawsuit
If you have experienced engine oil consumption with your Ford F-150 vehicle, please submit your car complaint to receive important updates.
Important Lawsuit Updates
Please keep all records of service performed for oil consumption problems.
Ford Motor Company filed a motion requesting that the lawsuit be dismissed but, after considering filings by both parties, the court largely denied Ford’s request. As a result, the case can now proceed into the litigation stage.
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Dan
April 8, 2024 at 7:58 pmAnd yes I have the same issues as everyone else 2018 f150 king ranch 3 quarts between changes. Purchased new 25,000 miles. Extremely disappointing
Adnan
March 17, 2024 at 4:54 pmI have a 2019, I was experiencing low oil pressure warnings when accelerating up hill, I took it to a trusted mechanic as my F-150’s warranty and FMPP had expired, the mechanic had told me that I had 3L of oil in the pan, no other signs of sweating or leaking. I called the Ford Dealer I went to last, just to ask why I had only 3L of oil in my engine. I got a response of there is a “TSB however since you are out of warranty you would have to pay out of pocket between 600-800 dollars for the service”. I have 0 trust with the dealerships now because I could’ve had this low oil issue for a while and they could’ve neglected to tell me. My question is will the Class Action be also applicable in Canada?
Christopher Rossen
March 18, 2024 at 8:03 amHi Adnan. No, only U.S. at this time.
Bill Siverd
March 24, 2024 at 4:39 pmChristopher. If I should decide to have a new engine installed, can I still get in on the Lawsuit?
Christopher Rossen
March 25, 2024 at 7:15 amHi Bill. If you pay out of pocket, yes. If covered by Ford, no.
Ken Merring
March 9, 2024 at 9:31 amOn my 2018, I identified the Root Cause of excessive oil passage and took corrective action that has eliminated the problem.
Waited over 25,000 miles and three oil change intervals to be sure.
The fix is not Ford approved in any way so the owner has to take it on himself.
The good news is it only cost $10 at each oil change to be sure its fixed and it quiets the engine noise down to a low level..
Christopher Rossen
March 9, 2024 at 2:54 pmThanks Ken for sharing. What was the fix?
philip
March 11, 2024 at 11:05 amKen,
Interested to hear what your solution is before I take my truck in to reprogram the PCM. Thanks.
Shannon Straub
March 18, 2024 at 4:19 pmWhat’s the fix
Tom
February 22, 2024 at 10:19 amUpdate on my 2020 F150: Had the TSB done at 82,000 km and started my oil consumption test. The dealer wanted me to return after 4,800 km to check the oil level but I went in 400 km shy of that because the level was fraction below the minimum line and I was nervous about driving any further.
Turns out I have an “excessive oil consumption” problem that the TSB did not correct.
The dealer has been over all great with me on the issue and has ordered a new motor under warranty for me.The only problem now is it will take 4 – 6 months to get the new motor from Ford. I guess I’m going to have to buy a case of oil and keep it handy till then!!
Christopher Rossen
February 22, 2024 at 11:45 amThanks for the update Tom. Great news about getting a new engine!
Terry Durrett
February 10, 2024 at 5:10 pmI did not find out about the oil consumption issue until after 65,000 miles. The dealer wants $414 for perform the TSB now. I did add an oil catch can and have ordered the new dipstick, just have to wait for the reprogramming or for the lawsuit settlement. I have also noticed the plastic drain plug is trash and plan to replace it ASAP.
Tom Mittertreiner
February 6, 2024 at 2:55 pmHi Christopher,
I don’t see my post listed as yet…..I submitted this past November when all this started to happen and is still on going. I’m about 2,500 km into a consumption test after the PCM update on my 2020 and oil is less than half on the dipstick!!
paul
January 30, 2024 at 12:35 pm2018 ford f150 coyote motor burning oil .mine to for replaced the dip stick and pvc .but still is using oil.28,000 miles
Bill
November 20, 2023 at 5:36 pm2019 F150 5.0 same issue. 2-2.5 liters added between Ford dealer services. Since brand new I’ve been complaining about issue they told me I was checking my oil wrong. now they say it’s normal to have to keep on adding so much
Jon
November 16, 2023 at 4:16 pm2018 F150 5.0. Bought it brand new, well maintained and driven on the highway. It’s has always ticked and rattled. Ford told me three times that it normal. Just turned 59,000 miles and the oil consumption has started. Down 4 quarts 70% into the oil change cycle. Dealers lie..so does Ford.
Ross Perkins
November 14, 2023 at 8:51 pmI have a 2020 F150 5.0…. Had been running great until I took a road trip. Came home and then check engine light was on. Checked oil and there was no oil on dip stick. Took it in they performed the update with 57,000 miles. Took I back in after 1000 miles and they told me I had to get a new engine.. Problem is they still have the truck and can’t tell me when I will get it back. Can barely get them to call me back…. I use my truck for our horses and they put me in a ford escape. I have always been a ford guy but this making me think differently…. Sadly I have no idea when I will get my truck back.
Rick
September 27, 2023 at 12:06 pmI definitely have the oil consumption problem. I purchased my 2020 F-150 5.0L V-8 in July 2021 with about 16k miles on it. Other than a 1700-mile trip to Indiana and back, I didn’t drive it much for the first year I owned it because I primarily drove my other vehicle to and from work. It now has about 42k miles and earlier this year, I started noticing a rattling sound coming from the engine while accelerating through 25-30 mph. I checked everything I could but didn’t think much of it and would have it checked out at the next servicing. In May 2023, I received a check engine light and got the low oil pressure light. I checked the oil, and the dipstick was completely dry. I added oil and took it to the dealership service center. They told me what the problem was and that they completed the steps of the TSB (checked for leaks, oil change, new dipstick, and PCM programming). They basically said “keep an eye on it and if the problem persists, call us back.” Last week, the problem occurred again. I burned through 5.5 qts of oil in 4 months. I called the dealership service center back and they said “you were supposed to bring it back every 750-1000 miles so we could monitor for oil consumption.” They never explained that to me nor was it on the receipt paperwork, but alas, I’m bringing my truck back in tomorrow to start the oil consumption testing process all over again because my own personal experience is not good enough. They have to see it for themselves. This is my 5th Ford truck and I finally got a beautiful truck with all the options I wanted and go figure it’s the only one I’ve ever had with significant engine issues.
Eddie Smith
September 25, 2023 at 3:39 pmI own a 2018 F-150 King Ranch with the 5.0 engine. I have experienced 3 to 5 quarts of oil consumed between oil changes. The have installed and tested according to their Ford specs. and drug the process out for 25-35000 miles. I was undergoing another oil consumption test and experienced .engine noise. I added 2 quarts of oil hoping to stop the noise and avoid damage. Upon my return to dealer they informed me my actions ruined their test and My car was over 60,000 miles and out of warranty. I was lead along with fictious fixes until the warranty run out.
Iris June Friede
September 11, 2023 at 11:09 pmI purchased my 2019 Ford 150 used at 70,000 miles. I have had the transmission fail and replaced, battled with excessive oil use and now at 108,450 miles the double catalytic converters replaced. One converter was over 95% plugged and the other unit was fine. When I questioned what happened I was told it was excessive oil moving through the engine.
Michael Troila
August 27, 2023 at 6:20 pmI purchased a 2020 Ford F150 xl 5.0 coyote engine, I regularly had my oil changed by ford under my warranty, codes started showing up and my engine light came on I addressed the codes had all my spark plugs changed and coil packs my truck shudders when at 40+ MPH and I can hear a knock in the motor, took it to Ford they added 3 quarts of oil, reprogrammed PCM took the constant codes, drove home, codes are back, still having all above issues. I was told by ford to sign a waiver saying the car was dangerous to drive, then on diagnosis page was told to drive it for 3,000 miles then come back to Ford to check oil note. The whole matter is criminal and contradicting. My warranty has expired and before they even did a diagnostic tried to get me to buy a motor, meanwhile I was harassed to sign a waiver as my vehicle was held hostage for 3 days. I refused and demanded my keys which the secretary relinquished. Currently taking the vehicle to another mechanic to have a pressure test done, that ford never did.
Larry Toothman
August 18, 2023 at 8:17 pmI have a 2018 f150 with 5.0 coyote that I bought brand new. I had issues with oil consumption and after a lot of tests and oil changes it was determined that the engine needed rebuilt at 42,500 miles. I now have 53,000 and I’m seeing excessive oil use again. Sounds like a diesel when it idles.
Peter
July 18, 2023 at 9:55 pm2020 F150 5.0 same issue. 2-2.5 liters added between Ford dealer services. Since brand new I’ve been complaining about issue now they say it’s normal to add that much.
joe brookens
July 16, 2023 at 6:20 pmI have a 2018 F150 with the 5.0L it has 66K miles. I have just completed the formal oil consumption test as described in FORD TSB 19-2365. My truck failed the 1 quart of oil within 3K miles. The dealership has formally acknowledged this in an email to me and now states someone outside the dealership has to determine if it is going to be a long block engine replacement. Not sure what to do if they do not honor that engine replacement.
Bill Williams
November 1, 2023 at 7:03 pmSame thing here. 2 years later Ford still refuses to do anything and just issues another case number when I call.
Richard Patton
July 14, 2023 at 4:04 pmCan’t something push Ford a little harder on the lawsuit for oil consumption on the F-150 5.0?
Nothing has changed since I joined three years ago?
Christopher Rossen
July 19, 2023 at 12:05 pmHi Richard. The only thing that may accelerate any type of resolution is social pressure (News coverage for example)
DENNIS LOWE
October 12, 2023 at 11:38 amI have a 2019 F150 with 5.0 engine and 10R80 trans. I change my own oil and noticed a gradual increase in oil consumption in the last three years. I complained to Ford Dealer and they said bring it in and they will change the oil and then I could bring it back for them to change it again to see how much it’s burning. So in other words instead of taking my word that when I change my oil and add 9 quarts of oil and when I drain it there’s only 5 quarts that there’s a problem. And for around $250 they can change my oil twice to come up with the same conclusion. Now I’m out of warranty and they did not put any notes in my records that I even complained about it so I’m out of luck. Please add me to the list of unhappy Ford owners. Don’t get me wrong I love the truck when it’s running but that was just the first of my problems. At 102k my transmission went out. Slipping and banging in all gears. Took it to Ford and they had my truck for 5 weeks saying they can’t get parts and wanted to charge me $8000 to repair. I called a few transmission shops nearby and they said they had all OEM parts and could have it done in 4-5 days for $6500. I let Ford know this and they did reduce there price to $6500 and had the truck ready in another week. I picked up the truck and drove it two days and trans went completely out again. I brought it back and they had it another month repairing. However this time it was covered by the rebuild warranty.
That still doesn’t make up for the 2 1/2 months I didn’t have my truck.
Also when I first brought the truck in they told me they didn’t have a loaner program that I would have to rent a car. When it happened the second time they somehow had a loaner program and gave me a loaner
Avi
July 13, 2023 at 2:43 pmI have a 2018 Ford F150 which is well maintained serviced at a Ford authorized dealer. Earlier this year in April, when my truck was being serviced I was advised by the technician that the “oil levels are significantly low keep an eye if there is any leaks” I told them that the vehicle is always parked in the garage and I did not notice any leaks. I was told to keep an eye. Few days ago I checked the oil level which was low so I called and scheduled the service. At this point my vehicle is over 5 years & 88000 kms (anniversary date June 25) and TSB 19-2365 will not qualify it for coverage. The dealership charged me $500 for this repair, which clearly is a manufacturing default. It just seems like the dealership was aware of this and they purposely told me to “keep an eye on leaks”, because it was obvious that vehicle will be out of the warranty coverage time frame. This is just unfair and and very unprofessional at their part. Not sure if I will ever see my money again.
Ken M
June 24, 2023 at 3:46 pmSecond reply and a report about my 2018 5L oil usage issue.
It’s all over! No more usage and now over 75k miles.
Here is the back story and why Ford cannot fix the issue leaving it drag on.
When the block bores are flame coated, the rate of deposition has to be correct or excess Porosity occurs in the hard coating. This larger Porosity >>> holds<< to much oil on the walls. The Ring Pack cannot handle the excess oil such that it finds it's way by the Rings into the combustion chamber and out the exhaust.
In addition:: the combustion blow-by pressurizes the crankcase that further carries oil Mist through the PCV valve that is connected to the Throttle body intake and pulled by Vacuum at that location.
This is two paths the oil moves to combustion and out the exhaust.
Further, the oil passes through the Cat converters and can cause then a shorter life span to replacement.
My research from technical sources concluded the use of Moly oil additive that has filled in the excess Porosity of the cylinder lining and reduced to holding of excess oil. Note: Moly is a metal in suspension and very slippery.
Now at 75k miles and oil levels not filled beyond 7 qts., has eliminated the oil usage and a bonus of quieting the engine noise clearances down to a very low level.
Not what everyone needs to or wants to hear but why FORD can't do a fix at the Owner / Dealer level because the block is not rebuildable at the cylinder level in a dealer shop. There in lays the total issue.
I took this oil passage issue in hand to see if my conclusion was correct and seems it was.
It's at odds with warranty and present company actions, so an Owner has to decide what his action will be.
Good luck.
AJ Coles
June 20, 2023 at 10:19 amI bought a 2019 new , I first noticed the oil issue at about 4000km , Chet the oil and it was down 2.5 litres. Went through all the recalls but it still used more oil than it should. First I was told I was checking the oil incorrectly but being a 39 year aircraft mechanic I quickly put that idea to bed. Ever oil change I complained. A year after the recall the truck set an engine code which is one of the results of the reprogramming. The dealer did another reprogramming and the code stayed away. A month ago I decided to do my own oil change and just for fun I dip the oil level before I did the oil change. There was no oil showing on the the dip stick. The truck use 4.5 litres of oil in 9000km. I am currently going through the oil consumption program because my drive train warranty will be up soon. Another concern is the other parts that are going to be affected by oil being constantly burned. Converters O2 sensors.
Alex
May 16, 2023 at 6:25 pmI bought a brand new 2020 F-150 with the 5.0 liter engine, and it burns over a quart of oil every 1500 miles, and it did this from day 1. I went back to dealer and was told every engine burns oil, and this was normal, so I’ve been adding a quart of oil every1500 miles. I now have 67,000 miles on it, and have still been adding the quart of oil every 1500 miles.This is total crap, but who’s gonna fight the dealer, as we all have lives to live, and spending day after day dealing with the “Bullys” is not what one would expect after spending nearly 60K on a new Truck. Thank You for this forum, and hopefully Ford will have to take care of what they should have done without being forced into it by the lawsuit. And I agree, with Denis -what on Earth would changing a dipstick do to solve an oil burning problem? I’ve added my name to the complaint lawsuit list.Oh well, bad word of mouth and the internet go a long way these days. SeeYa Ford!
Mervyn Hartley
May 15, 2023 at 1:59 pmI left one –not sure it made it through the cookies and was posted. My 2019 Fi50 has developed this problem with 73,000 KM. I bought it new and have kept it maintained according to Ford Standards, but it has still happened. I’ve had Fords since 1993 3 new and 1 used and this is the first problematic vehicle I’ve had and I’m surprised as I thought Ford was better than this. Please help me join the lawsuit!
Mervyn Hartley
May 15, 2023 at 1:46 pmSuddenly, My f-150 2019 withb just 73,000 Km’ on it needed 6 litres of oil to bring it up to full–no notice until this point in time. The truck warns me of everything from low tire to check trailer connection but no warning of low oil in the engine???? I need to join this lawsuit –someone please help me here. I have kept it serviced regularly and properly so there is no reason on my part for this to have happened. I thought Ford was better than this–my forth Ford in a row since 1993–Maybe my last!
Chris clapper
April 5, 2023 at 10:04 pmI have a 2019 that I bought used. I have changed oil twice now and lost about 3 qt each time. Was going to take in the next couple weeks to have the tsp addressed. Looking to see if that means I should sign up for this
Anothony Potempa
April 4, 2023 at 8:45 ami have a 2018 f150 that is extremely low on oil yesterday the truck stalled at stop light and had hard time start my mechanic told me to check oil when i got to work did and it was almost empty it’s only been 4500 miles since my last oil change.
Rick Schwarz
March 24, 2023 at 5:37 pmI have a 2018 f150 with the 5.0 and I have had the service bulletin done on it and it still uses a quart every 2500 miles. I use full synthetic oil and change it at 7000 miles which is under what ford recommends, making it using 3 quarts in an oil change. Before the service it would use more than that. I have never had a vehicle that used oil before 100k miles. I have a Buick over 100 k miles and it doesn’t use a drop. Ford dropped the ball on this one, it’s ridiculous to spend $50,000 on a vehicle and it starts using oil before the warranty is even out. And then changing the dipstick from the original that show 1quart to a 2 quart to try to fool customers to think it is only using 1quart when it is really using 2. That’s deceitful.
Wayne D. King
March 11, 2023 at 11:05 amPurchased my 2018 F-150 -5.0 new on 10/2018 had all oil change’s done at my local Ford dealer. At 24,728 miles had oil changed at local quick lube do to my schedule. Was informed by the owner after they were done that its level was just touching the bottom of the dip stick almost 4 quarts low ?? No oil drips he and another mechanic told me about the oil consumption problem and keep checking it at 1,000 intervals. Found this web site for more information. Took truck back to dealer and they performed the TSB 19-2365 work and said everything will be fine just keep an eye on the oil level. Hope this works but from what I’m reading it doesn’t sound like it.
JESSICA ANDERSON
March 4, 2023 at 9:45 pmMy 2018 F-150 Platinum with a 5.0 V8 engine has been noisy from day one. Ford said the noise is “normal for the Coyote engine.” I am religious about the maintenance on my truck and I, too, am experiencing my engine running dry of oil. This is ridiculous and unacceptable!!
Kenneth Youmans
February 13, 2023 at 9:13 pm2019 F150 bought new. didn’t notice the oil consumption until i took it to goodyear for a tire repair. They informed me of no oil showing on the dipstick. took 3 quarts. took it to ford and started consumption test.( 48000) approx 1 quart every 1300 miles. if I used there oil change schedule i would burn 5-5.7 qts per oil change. Ford dealer ordered new engine (55000). Still waiting on new engine, 63000. keep getting told its backordered but expected soon. Nov, Dec, Jan, now Feb. Waiting.
Kenneth Youmans
April 6, 2023 at 9:54 pmApril 6,2023. Still waiting on that new motor.
Kenneth Youmans
April 20, 2023 at 12:52 pmford notified me, engine is in. will be replaced next week. i am seriously thinking about adding a quart of engine break in oil with zinc. hoping that everything seat and seals better as to not burn the oil like it did. any ideas from those out there on this?
Stephen W. Randall
January 25, 2023 at 6:03 pmmy ford 2019 f-150 with the 5.0 liter motor burns oil at 1300 miles per quart. taken to dealer for tsb to replace dipstick. no help I will not buy another pickup from ford or any thing else ford sells.
Darryl
January 23, 2023 at 12:31 am2019 ford f150 oil user , still waiting for class action lawsuit result
Tony
January 22, 2023 at 10:24 amWe purchased a used 2018 (Ford Certified Pre-owned) with 36,600 miles on June 25, 2021. Six months later, at 41,600 miles, an oil change was done at a local shop. No mention of anything out of the ordinary was made. September 22, 2022, at 48,157 miles I changed the oil myself. I was prepared to catch nearly 9 quarts of used oil and was scratching my head when less than 4 quarts were in my drain pan. A quick internet search led me to this, and many other threads regarding the oil consumption issue. Five days later, on September 27, 2022, our local Ford Dealer completed the fix outlined in Technical Service Bulletin 19-2365. Mileage at time of service was 48,305. I was advised to monitor oil level every 500 miles and notify service department if consumption continued. I watched as the oil level dropped to the bottom of the dipstick hashmarks over the next 3 months/2,917 miles. On January 4, 2023, at 51,222 miles our vehicle was returned to our local dealer. They noted that the oil was 2.5 quarts low. Conversations between Ford Engineering and the Service Department continued as the mechanics investigated further. After about a week of this I asked for and was given a loaner vehicle. Shortly thereafter we were told that Ford greenlighted a new engine. The only problem is there is quite a backlog of people waiting for new 5L V8s. Yesterday I was informed the wait may be as long as 18 months!
We are currently in a Ford Explorer loaner. Whether or not they can ever get us in a courtesy truck remains to be seen. Even if they do get us a truck, I’m told we are not allowed to tow with a loaner vehicle. I do feel that our local Ford Dealer is doing what they can to accommodate and keep us informed. I should also note that at no time did our vehicle’s check engine or oil lights come on nor did the truck run rough in any way.
Andrew Lewis Smith
January 20, 2023 at 2:53 pmI am having very bad oil consumption issues with my 2018 Ford F150 5.0L. I have even switched to using Mobil 1 full synthetic oil 5w20. I’m having to add 2 1/2 – 4 quarts of oil before the oil change interval. Once I noticed my truck running very badly during early start-up and during heavy acceleration. My oil minder was registered at 44% oil life left. Checked my oil level on the dipstick and it wasn’t even touching. I had to add 2 quarts of oil to get it back to specs.
Brian Zaborek
January 20, 2023 at 5:48 amOwn a 2018 5.0l F-150.
Using w qrts. Oil in 3000 miles.
Now has 60,000 interstate driven miles.
Consumption of oil has been like this since I got it .
Warren
January 10, 2023 at 7:54 pmI have a 2020 F-150 with the Coyote engine, it uses at lease two quarts of motor oil between oil changes. I took it to my Ford dealer and they changed the dip stick and did the reprogramming and changed the oil and filter and told me to bring it back if the problem continued. The problem continued so I took it back, they performed so checks and told me the oil consumption was with in proper parameters. The engine has over 22K on it now and is still using too much oil in my opinion
Sean Evans
January 10, 2023 at 11:23 amOwned a 2018 F 150 5L and started by waiting till indicator came on for oil changes ( I drive a lot of highway) each time it has gotten worse. Now changing every 7500Klm / (4700 miles) I have 140,000 Klm and have been running full synthetic and oil consumption seems to be getting worse. at about 7000klm engine got noisy and i was down about 3.5L to get to dip stick. Very worried about this engine.
Brad Rink
January 9, 2023 at 5:58 pmI have a 2018 F-150 5.0L with the same oil consumption issue. Adding myself to the list to keep up to date on posts.
Chris Sell
January 3, 2023 at 9:39 amI have a 2020 F-150 5.0L with the same oil consumption issue. Adding myself to the list to keep up to date on posts.
Christopher
January 3, 2023 at 10:41 amHi Chris. While it’s not needed, we recommend you add your car complaint here. This way when news breaks, you will receive an email alerting you to the news.
Joseph Martin
January 2, 2023 at 4:03 pmI just bought a used 2021 Ford F-150 Lariat with the 5.0 Coyote engine in Sept. 2022. It had 36k miles roughly.
Just before my first oil change my engine felt like it was skipping and I received an engine notification stating that there was an erratic reading from one of the timing sensors. I had noticed upon idling for more than 30 minutes that white smoke would come out of my tailpipes. Long story short, I checked my oil and there was no oil on the dipstick. It took 4 quarts to get it on the dipstick. At this point it was running really bad so I took it in only to get a call the next day stating it wasn’t showing any of the symptoms I described. Of course I went in the next morning and took the lead mechanic for a ride, only to find that it was running fine…… I was told that the timing was very dependent on the oil and that I should make sure to check it frequently and I fixed it myself by putting the oil in it.I brought up the fact a few times that it was 4.5 to 5 quarts low and that didn’t seem right, and never received a straight answer. I was told it was normal to burn 1/2 quart per 1k miles.. I know people need to make money, but selling something they know is not right and more than likely will fail sooner than it should well, that’s just down right dirty and wrong. I’m just a consumer, but couldn’t you just make a ring just a tad bit bigger? I put 200k on a 2013 tundra and never once lost a drop of oil..come on Ford.. you got this.
kody christensen
December 30, 2022 at 8:07 pm2018 f150 50,000 KM Oil changes have always been a bit low i have started going more frequent then recommended time or km , this time there was no oil at all on the dip stick . problem is definitely progressing , did some research and found this out , hope all goes well
Gary Brissette
December 30, 2022 at 11:18 amWe order our truck the way we wanted it as a lease. We have had to add oil way to often. Brought it back to the dealer. First was told it was normal use. The second time they said they fixed it. It was better so we bought the truck. Now we have to add a quart every 1500 to 1700 miles.
Nestor
December 22, 2022 at 10:56 amStill struggling with the dealer to take me seriously with my oil consumption. The TSB does not work. Here is a video which explains what dealers should be doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYhSxPLg6wU
Nestor
December 22, 2022 at 10:54 amI have a 2018 and the TSB does not work. My consumption is at 1 quart every 2500 miles. My dealer will not do any further investigation other than what the TSB says and make an attempt to interpret the TSB is stating that its normal for the truck to consume 1 quart every 2500 miles. There is a youtube video which explains what dealers should be doing but are not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYhSxPLg6wU
Chris Hamm
December 22, 2022 at 9:07 amMy 2018 Ford f150 is 1.5 quarts low at 5000 miles which is at oil change
Steve Bodkins
December 20, 2022 at 5:37 amI purchased a new 2020 F-150 in March of 2020. I noticed after a few miles it was using more oil than my previous Fords that I owned but thought it was just a break-in sequence and waited until I had 20,000 miles plus in January 2022 before I took it to the dealership where they changed the oil, replaced the dipstick and then started an oil evaluation study. I had to take it back every time it used a quart of oil which was usually between 800-1000 miles of driving. They also replaced the PVC valve and made some other adjustments. After the third quart of oil, the dealership was waiting on Ford to make a decision on what to do with the oil consumption at one quart or more per 1,000 miles. While I was driving in May 2022, it started missing badly and I chugged back into the dealership where they found that plugs 1 and 5 had excessive oil on them and were fouled. They replaced those plugs and cleaned out the oil and then told me about a week later they would replace both heads. It was in the shop a month for these repairs and I got it back in July 2022. I quickly noticed after getting it back that it was still using about one quart or more of oil every 1,000 miles. Now, December 2022, I took it back again and explained that it is still using one quart of oil every 800 or 1,000 miles. They explained they had to go through another oil evaluation study and changed the oil again and I will have to take it back every time it uses a quart of oil. Sad that a person has to go through all of this for a vehicle that cost $50,000. Looks like I’ve got a lemon on my hands.
Wayne Tucker
December 14, 2022 at 6:19 amMy 2019 F150 is using about 1 quart every 2000 miles. How do I join the law suit. Thanks
Christopher
December 14, 2022 at 7:31 amHi Wayne, you can add your car complaint by using this link: Add your car complaint.
Kevin
November 30, 2022 at 10:46 pmMy 2019 F150 burns through a lot of oil. Now I am having stalling issues.
Steve. C. Rhyne
November 28, 2022 at 2:43 pmI purchased a 2018 Ford F150. with the 5.0 motor used from a dealership in Spring of 2022 .It had 63000 miles on it. I did not have a clue about the oil consumption problem. Seeing the dealership had changed the oil (synthetic blend)at time of purchase I waited a few months and changed oil and filter to full synthetic. Did not notice oil consumption problem until about 2000 miles later 1 qt. Low. Started keeping a closer watch on oil level, 2500 miles later 11/4 qt low. Put me in for the lawsuit.
Trafton Harvey
November 28, 2022 at 9:37 amI have a 2018 Ford F-150 that is burning 4 quarts of oil every 1,000 miles. I recently spent $3,600 having the engine rebuilt. After the engine was rebuilt and completed serviced, my check engine light came on after driving just less than 1,000 miles. I took it to the Ford dealership and they said they needed to replace the cylinder heads which costs about $7,000. I’m beyond frustrated. Would I qualify for the class action. My mechanic said that the engine problems were all due to low oil levels.
k. merring
December 1, 2022 at 6:00 pmYou don’t explain what rebuilt means.
From 2018 on these 5L motors are not rebuildable for bore and ring work by conventional means because the Bores are special hard coated at the factory on Alum bores.
The fact that they do not have steel sleeves in an Alum block makes the displacement not 302 cu/in but 307 cu/ inch, slightly larger in displacement.
For others, do not use full synthetic oils because that oil will prolong Ring Seating in the bores.
Babying the motor will not help ring seal break-in. Wear-in has to occur.
Dealers, knowing they cannot do a ‘fix’, take advantage of the Buyers, in many instances because they are the owner contact and cannot really help the problem, but listen to the unhappy owner.
For that, take your guess at the excuses you get.
I had the issue with my 2018 but it has worked out and now oil passage free without dealer intervention.
My final conditions are put in no more than 7 qts. MC 5w20 oil and one qt. of Lucas oil additive.
The motor is quiet. Any louder tapping is the high-pressure fuel pump located in the middle of the passenger side valve cover and is operated from the exhaust cam shaft. The tapping is normal.
Bottom line is, I agree, the motor should have had these issues factory addressed long go.
Otherwise, it has lots of power and great drivability.
Gary Dean Ames
November 14, 2022 at 8:57 pmJust bought a 2018 Ford F150 5.0 with 103K miles on it. Changed the oil after 2 weeks as I didn’t trust the dealer or looks of the oil. Less then 500 miles it appears low as well? Wondering what I need to do to get my name on the class action suit and what do I do in the mean time? Thank you for any help! Also experiencing the 4wd issue with the vacuum lines.
Christopher
November 15, 2022 at 8:26 amGary please submit your complaint to get onto our list. Once we have some news, you will be the first to hear about it. Add your complaint here.
Josh Strain
November 6, 2022 at 4:11 pmI have the 2018 F150 5.0 engine. It’s using over a quart every 5,000 miles. I also just spent over $600 replacing the passenger side LED tail light because it had water leaking into it and shorted out the LED. If you there is a lawsuit for the tail light I’d get in on that one too.
Christopher
November 11, 2022 at 10:13 amThanks Josh for the tip about the tail lights. Investigating this issue, stay tuned.
Justin
November 3, 2022 at 9:24 amYah I’m stuck as well and the dealer knows it they masked the first few repairs of this issue by saying it was something else but noted it was low on oil every time but didn’t bother to tell me after the second time in the shop for over two months I drove it for three days and the change engine oil light came on which I would have assumed they changed it while it was there since it was that close but they didn’t so not wanting to take it back in the shop I changed the oil myself so the next time it had to go to the shop for the same problem they write it as the oil hadn’t been changed in 12,000 miles and that it was 6 quarts low and knew that had found a way out of this one but hopefully my lawyer can help my children have to ride in this truck! After the third repair I asked for a print out of the total work history of the truck and they printed it looks like the previous owner traded it in became they were having the same issue but no work was done so when they pitched me the truck at sell they gave me a car fax report saying look it’s never had any repairs and all correct oil changes. The engine knock is still present but now I’m afraid to take it back up there because they’ll blame it on me not getting the oil changed and the work want be covered under warranty and they’ll probably fix it this time to recoup all there money lost on the previous 3 repairs
Randy
October 23, 2022 at 1:18 pmI purchased a used 2019 F150 with the 5.0 and 133,000 miles. I was unaware of the oil consumption problems at the time. I always service a used vehicle when I first buy it so that I have a starting point for service intervals. I have put just over 2000 miles on it, and it’s about 1-1/2 quart low now. Since I am the second owner with over 100k, could I be considered in this lawsuit?
Mark Richmond
October 17, 2022 at 6:08 pmI have recently purchased a used 2018 f150 with the 5.0 from a local new car dealer. I am noticing major oil consumption between oil changes, my truck has 67,000 miles on the odometer and just today had to add 4 qts. just to get a reading on the dipstick!! I spoke to my mechanic and noticed a check engine light on in which i plugged in my scan tool, the P0390,P0394 codes poppped up. He had told me to check the oil. Well it was low,very low! I did not know anything about this issue with Ford and these trucks. I want to get in the class action suit so I can be protected. Please let me know what I need to do.
Henry
October 16, 2022 at 8:32 amI have been having this issue since I bought this truck new in 2019 changing the dipstick is not a fix. For the price of a vehicle these days we should not have to worry about these problems ford knows they have a problem why not just fix it the right way.
Shaun Hofmans
October 14, 2022 at 11:34 pmI PURCHASED A FORD F-150 2020, I STARED HEARING ENGINE KNOCKING, A CHECKED THE OIL AND I WAS SHOCKED TO DISCOVER THERE WAS ALMOST NO OIL IN THE ENGINE. I JUST PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE AND PAID $40,000.00. MY TRUCK IS BURNING EXCESSIVE OIL. I LITER PER EVERY 1000KM.
THIS IS BS GIVEN THAT I BOUGHT THIS TRUCK DIRECTLY OFF OF FORD AS ONE OF THERE DEMO TRUCKS. THIS IS COMPLETE BS! THEY HAD TO KNOW ABOUT THIS BEFORE THEY SOLD IT TO ME!
Ray Mason
October 8, 2022 at 7:51 amI own 2018 F150 purchased new has used quart of oil every 2000 miles since new it has over 100000 miles been to two differant dealers and both have told same thing that it is normal. I have had them change oil every 5000 miles as recomend. They did oil consumtion test but i I noticed mark on dip stick was above full mark guessing they overfilled it. I was told by one guy that I did’nt know how to check my oil lol.
Frank Cital
October 6, 2022 at 5:42 pmYes. My 2018 f150 had the check engine light turn on for low oil. And they tried to charge me for servicing it.
Gary Jankowiak
October 5, 2022 at 7:49 amToo late to get in on this? 2019 5.0 F-150 42k already had the TSB performed, inproved from 1 qt. every 1k, to 1 qt. every 2k. Dealer just did oil change, taped up dipstick, oil filter, and pan plug to prevent tampering. I am to bring it back in 3k to check results.
Christopher
October 5, 2022 at 1:26 pmGary this is an ongoing case, so you won’t need to do anything to be considered a part of a potential class action settlement. If this case settles, anyone who was affected would be able to claim compensation. But we do recommend adding your complaint so we have you on record and send you any important updates that pertain to this lawsuit. Hope this helps.
Eric
January 24, 2023 at 9:53 amQuestion on time frame – Everyone’s odometers are ticking up daily. Is there any time frame estimates on a settlement date? I can see this really dragging out for a long time. With attorney fees and other overhead items, what can an owner expect in compensation? The only class action suits I’ve been a party to were for losses in publicly traded securities and ended up with pennies on the dollar, many years later. It’s great that a law firm will get on board to help against the corporate machine, but what does your crystal ball predict as an outcome? Is it length of ownership, miles since purchased, etc? Just trying to weigh my options with 55K miles and a buyout offer on the way from Ford. Thanks
Christopher
January 24, 2023 at 11:30 amHi Eric,
If you have a good offer, and can’t wait months or years, go for it. Just be careful which model you buy: https://mycarvoice.com/news/ford-f-150-oil-consumption-lawsuit/
Steve Mendez
November 19, 2023 at 1:33 amIm having the same issue with my 2019 Ford F 150. Purchased used at about 22,000 miles. Had oil changed at service intervals regularly. Now approaching 60K miles. On last oil service I was advised oil level low. Never was told this before. Did some research and now I know im not alone with this issue. After last oil change, checked oil level after about 1000 miles. It has dropped below bottom dot on dipstick. I have added a quart to see how much it comes up to get an idea of consumption. Now im considered about how Ford is going to really fix this issue. Like others, I feel violated by not being more informed about this from the seller.
Christopher Rossen
November 19, 2023 at 9:43 amSteve, it’s a frustrating situation for many, especially since the F-150 has been such a solid truck for decades. We will update this post when new information becomes available.
Jody M Farver
October 3, 2022 at 11:46 amI bought my F150 used from CarMax with 25K miles. It is burning oil at an unacceptable rate and I’m sure the original owner dumped it when they learned of the oil issue. Am I eligible to join the lawsuit since I bought it used?
Thank you
Glenn Reed
September 30, 2022 at 11:27 amHow do I join in the law suit?. My 2019 f150 burns oil like crazy….bought it used from dealer and now have to be extremely careful. Took it in for oil change and only had 2 liters of oil in it. This is not good probably already done damage…..whats this world come to? Such junk be sold to us
Mike Mercer
September 15, 2022 at 8:39 amI just ran into this on Monday. Bought a 2020 F150 5.0L used from a Ford Dealer with 25k miles (just made my first payment 2 days ago). A couple weeks after the purchase I noticed a little smoke after warm start so I checked the oil after 3k miles – oil was barely touching the dipstick and had to add 2 quarts. Took it to the dealer on Monday, and after keeping the truck for 3 days they told me there was nothing wrong with the truck, they fixed a wiper arm recall and that was it. After discussing it with the service manager for a half hour, he said they were going to do the PCM update and dipstick change, and that in his experience this has fixed the problem every time. I have very little hope that this is actually going to work.
Denis Vandale
December 22, 2022 at 12:58 amHow in the world can changing a dipstick fix an oil consumption issue? I owned a 2012 Mustang GT and a 2015 Mustang GT. Never had issues with oil consumption. This must be due to a manufacturing change. If quality is job one, Ford is failing miserably!
K. Merrig
August 27, 2022 at 10:29 pm2018 5L purchased as CPO with 28,000 miles from a dealer.
Found it was passing oil. Research found others are having the same issue and the dealer attempts to affect a repair. I did not believe in the company methods of repair because being a long-time engine builder, it was a cover up.
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Worked on the issue and tracking, came to the conclusion the problem was piston ring seal allowing oil to pass into the combustion chamber and combustion pressure by the ring pak causing excess crankcase pressures forcing oil out through the PVC and back into the engine intake ending up in the combustion process by two different routes.
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Here is the end results. At 59,000 miles the engine began using less oil.
By 61,000 miles, the oil passage has all but stopped.
My conclusion of Ring Seal seems to match the thought of a ring seal to bore issue.
Ford’s engine Lab has to know about the causes of the oil use problem by either incorrect bore preparation, ring metallurgy issue or incorrect assembly at the engine assembly facility.
I’m lucky to have run with this to a good end result.
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There have been NO dealer TSB or other interventions because I did not believe in those tactics to fix a Ring Seal issue.
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And by the way, these engines have oil spay nozzles aimed at the pistons to provide more cooling that does NOT help an oil usage issue before Ring break-in occurs.
I also believe this issue can result in short Cat Converter life.
My vehicle is now near perfect, and the general engine noise has subsided to a very low level, as well.
My feeling is the company as not addressed the issue but used cover up tactics.
Yes, some dealers are not very good at this but don’t blame them for poor engineering, quality checks etc. the dealer has to work with.
I would also advise NOT to use full synthetic oils before break-in occurs because it will prolong the break-in time.
Good luck.
Dustin Moore
August 23, 2022 at 10:48 amMy 2019 f-150 is having this problem I believe! My oil doesn’t even touch my dipstick after 4K I have to top it up until my oil change at 8k.
Angelina Schriever
August 12, 2022 at 7:05 pmJust left the dealership for a stupid oil consumption test again and they are asses! We are being forced to put unnecessary miles and usage on our 2019 Ford F-150 when they have more than enough documentation that it is consuming way more oil than necessary. We have already completed other tsb’s regarding excessive oil consumption! and still we go thru more bs! need to sign up if at all possible!
Jeff Bernier
August 2, 2022 at 1:56 pmI have a 2018 as well bought it used and now 4 months later down a quart and a half It has stalled out as well before I added more oil 2000 mile since oil change. Car fax say no update open so I’m guessing it was updated
Elliot Parsowith
May 6, 2022 at 3:38 pmMy 2018 Lariat, 5.0, purchased new has been using about a quart between 5K oil changes. It now has 27,800 miles on it. All oil changes done at a Ford dealership with full synthetic. After the last oil change, 1600 miles ago, it used a half quart to bring it to full. It was on the bottom of the scale on the dipstick, just above the bottom hole.
I am going to check the oil carefully, every 1000 miles, and document where it is until my next oil change in 3400 miles. I’ll let my dealer know if I think it’s excessive. I have the Ford ESP for another 2 years. Otherwise I love this truck.
The ’07 Silverado with the 5.3 I had for 12 years never burned a drop of oil between oil changes.
Hvy-G
April 17, 2022 at 4:53 pmI purchased slightly used 2020 F150 XLT w/ 5.0 gas engine in fall of 2021, with just 19K miles.. and just yesterday discovered the low oil issue. I had the oil changed at the local dealer about 900 miles ago. Yesterday I noticed the engine knocking a bit so I checked the oil level. I was shocked to see the oil level on the dipstick was barely showing. I didn’t have any of the 5w-20spec oil so made a special trip to the parts store. I added 3 quarts to finally get it to the proper “full” mark on the dipstick. Of course it now sounded normal on cold start but I’m worried that some damage may have been done. In hindsight probably should have waited thru the wknd and called dealer to have it towed to them so they could see it. I will still call them and see what they say, I will ask them about the TSB and fix if it hasn’t been done. However I’m skeptical from the reports out there if they truly have a solution. I’m not comfortable with the dipstick replacement route as part of the TSB..seems like a cheap bandaid at best.
Bill s
April 14, 2022 at 7:22 pmMy f150 has 53,000 miles and is consuming oil. Ford did oil change like always and this time they wrote on paperwork that dip stick was dry. Didn’t bother telling me or asking me about it. Now what to do?
L. B
May 19, 2022 at 5:52 amIs it too late to join this? We bought a Ford F-150 Lariat 5.0L used in February and are already experiencing excessive oil burning. The truck basically quit running for my son so we took it to dealership. They kept it for a full day . They ran it through the diagnostics but nothing was found. They were able to recreate the truck stalling out and ultimately the root cause was it was low oil. We had just had an oil changed.
Christopher
May 19, 2022 at 8:22 amHi L.B.
Could you submit your complaint here. This way we have your information and keep in touch as this case evolves.
Bob Maas
February 2, 2023 at 7:46 pmI have a 2018 Ford F-150 King Ranch with a 5.0. I add anywhere from 6-7 quarts of oil between oil changes. Bought it with 9000 miles on it and currently have 51000. Haven’t bothered taking it to the dealer because everything I have read states they don’t really fix it. Frustrating
Christopher
February 3, 2023 at 8:30 amI don’t blame you. The current fix is a different length dipstick and reflash of the ECU. Ford can do better.
Van Minter
April 6, 2022 at 10:24 amSo what do I do? I just bought a 2019 F150 5.0 with only 11,500 miles on it and love the truck. I’ve only put 500 miles on it up to this point. I bought a warranty with it and made sure there were no outstanding recalls before buying. Does every 2019 5.0 have this issue? Is there a legitimate fix that any dealership is offering? Please help.
Christopher
April 6, 2022 at 4:04 pmVan you will want to keep tabs of your oil level regularly. Although oil consumption is trending higher with the MY2018, 2019 F-150 isn’t far off with similar complaints.
Tim
March 17, 2022 at 7:54 amI have a 2018 F150 5.0 liter with 51,000 miles. I took it to the dealership several times. They scratched a new line on the dipstick, did the PCM program change changed the oil a couple times to a heavier weight oil but it was still taking oil. The truck is currently back at the dealership basically putting in a new engine. (Short block and new heads)
Mike
March 20, 2022 at 5:27 pmThe dealer just replaced my 2018 f150 5.0 also with the new short block and heads for this problem with only 11k on motor and now 5 weeks later and 1800 miles on new motor it is one quart low. This is crazy the last motor used 3 quarts at about the same mileage and was louder than a diesel. The new engine has less noise so far but still has some and is still burning oil. I am almost 60 and have had many trucks and cars new and old but this is the worst motor I have ever owned in any truck or car, and I’ve had other 5.0 and many other motors even with high mileage but FORD won’t admit the new 5.0 from 2018, 2019 and 2020 was just a bad design / motor that was put in f150 and mustang. I wasted 50k on a lemon. This will be my last FORD because ford is still covering up for this motor. Just look at all the forums and blogs etc. Just look at their own TSB telling the dealers to put a longer dip stick and reprogram to try to make the customer think there is no oil consumption issues and also telling the customer the engine noise is normal and does not affect the motor. If you believe that I have some prime swamp land I will sell you.
Bill s
April 14, 2022 at 7:17 pmI have a 2018 f150 and have 53,000 miles on it. Just have oil changed and they said no oil on the dip stick. This is the first time for me. Ford didn’t mention anything about it. I read it on the paperwork when I got home. Let me know how it goes
Conni Martin
February 7, 2022 at 4:20 pmWe have the same issue with our 2018 F150. Local dealer was not concerned-“these engines use oil”. After reading the tech docs & joining the lawsuit, we contacted dealer in a nearby city. They took care of the update on the PCM & dipstick. I can only hope this corrects/helps the issue.
Christopher
February 8, 2022 at 8:43 amThanks for adding your voice to this post Conni.
ADAM
January 11, 2022 at 11:57 amMy 2019 f-150 5.0L has this problem. The dealership has already changed the dipstick and did the PCM update. The oil level is always low when it’s time for an oil change. The truck makes a knocking noise when accelerating around 40 mph. Of course, every time I take it to the dealership, they don’t hear it. I have taken it in multiple times. I wish Ford would fix this issue.
Christopher
January 11, 2022 at 12:01 pmThanks Adam for adding your voice to this post.
Jason
January 19, 2022 at 6:04 pmI have the same issue with my 2019 F150. Also had issues with rattling noise on acceleration. After reading some forums I took their advice and started using 93 octane gas. That stopped the rattling for me, but the cost of that grade is hitting hard. Wish I had a link to the forum. Someone had a compression test done and they explained why you should use the higher octane. Think I will add myself to this site for updates.
Christopher
January 20, 2022 at 6:54 amThanks for adding your voice to this post Jason.
Reggie r beckham
January 10, 2022 at 1:41 pmNeed to be add on law suit about f150 using oil
Christopher
January 10, 2022 at 2:54 pmHi Reggie,
Please submit your complaint to be added to the class action here.
When a settlement is announced, we will send you an email regarding next steps. Thanks.
Anthony and Brooke Rhen
November 27, 2022 at 5:49 pmWe have a 2018 ford f-150 xlt 5.0 engine. We notice it was using oil. Took it to dealer who did an oil change, oil tsb. Claimed the longer dip stick would fix the problem, but the truck still was using oil and we were still adding to it. We have added any where from half a quart to 2 quarts at a time. We really want this fixed.
Dave
December 6, 2021 at 3:34 pmThis problem started only after Ford mfg blocks with lazer welded cylinder liners, the welding rod material is fuzed to the aluminum block then bored/honed resulting in very thin liners, this cannot be a good method of cylinder liners, I think this is the real cause of excessive oil consumption. The Lexus LS500 also has welded cylinder liners now and are experiencing same oil consumption, 1000 miles and one quart loss, this is a lot of oil consumption between oil changes. The new Tundra also has same type cylinder liners, welded in then bored to extremely thin thickness. I predict we will see the same excessive oil consumption in new tundras within 6 months en masse. The old tried and true thick cylinder cast iron liners press fit, 2017 coyote and back had no troubles with excessive oil consumption. Be interesting to see how the new tundra “welded in” valve seats last, versus the old tried and true press fit hard seats.
Christopher
December 28, 2021 at 1:21 pmThanks for adding your voice Dave.
Abraham dorta
November 23, 2022 at 2:57 pmMy 2020 f150 has the same problem with oil consumption, had
the PCM reprogrammed they didn’t change the dipstick because they said that my truck already had a new dipstick, after just a thousand miles with the new PCM programmed I already have to add a quart of oil in. Unbelievable. Going back to the dealership see what they say this time, I think I’m going to have to get involved in this lawsuit.l
mike
September 23, 2021 at 12:41 pmdealer is playing stupid problem is when i drop truck off they dont have loaner car or its not a truck which i need for work .joke will be on them as lemon law in nj is 2 times to dealer for same problem , becomes a case they can not win keep your paper work call lawyer they have to take truck back and reimburse cost of vehicle . good luck they can not fix oil loss problem without installing new engine .
Christopher
December 28, 2021 at 1:22 pmThanks for adding your voice Mike.
Mark Sanders
December 7, 2022 at 9:56 amI have 2018 f-150 which uses a quart of oil every 900-1200 miles. I have not taken it to dealership for repair because they don’t have one. I had to pay extra for this engine when I bought the truck .I have 53000 miles and an extended warranty so I am going to take it in and see what they can do.
Kevin Brooks
February 3, 2023 at 1:17 pmHow can I get add to the class action lawsuit I have the same problem with my f150 platium 2018 ???
Mike
June 8, 2023 at 5:31 pmI am in the exact same boat. Dealer started out with “Well, there’s going to be 2 service charges today sir, one for the check engine light diagnostics, and another fee for oil consumption diagnostics (we will charge you 125.00 per hour to sit there and scratch our heads). They REFUSED to apply the TSB on request. I now find out dealers have to do a tsb if it is needed. When other’s were refused, they simply called another dealership and they said “bring it right in, no problem”. Service manager at this dealership was a total prick/ahole and whenever I have to go back there, it’s always another new one. That itself says a lot about this dealership.
How is your dealership handling this problem? I bought it elsewhere because I’ve been screwed by this dealer before, but my purchasing dealer is too far away to drop off for service.
Chad
July 11, 2023 at 4:58 pmSame issue. 2020 F150. Engine barely runs due to damage from oil consumption. Dealer was pushing back until I involved Ford. Hopefully I’ll get a resolution soon. It’s been a nightmare.
Jeremy Marshall
December 20, 2022 at 12:40 pmSame issue, 2
5-3 quarts between changes, engine noise, dealer Tech says he found metal in the oil but they cannot order me a new motor due to back order maybe?
Ross Johnson
January 3, 2023 at 12:01 pmI had a F150 crew cab 2020 with 26000 miles on it still under warranty.
Knowing ford would drag it’s legs,I traded it in for a new truck 2022. It isn’t a ford either.
I received a decent trade in amount at low miles. I guess I could have waited around for 5 yr. plus and still wondering the outcome.
Kevin Brooks
February 3, 2023 at 1:18 pmHow can I get add to the class action lawsuit I have the same problem with my f150 platium 2018 ???
Mike
August 11, 2021 at 3:44 amI believe my f150 5.0L has this happening. The dealership has already swapped my dip stick and performed pcm update ..I now have a popping noise inside motor area kinda like pop corn or something.. what can be done ? I’m wondering if I’ll be stuck with costly repairs after my warranty is up. 50k now . 100k warranty.. I’ve reported issue as early as 32k
Christopher
August 11, 2021 at 10:45 amMike,
Sounds like you are having some issues, similar to others with these engines. To join the class action lawsuit, please submit a detailed complaint here:
https://mycarvoice.com/submit-car-complaint/
Darryl BORG
December 20, 2022 at 3:01 pmi bought 2019 ford f150 with 5.0 engine. it had 15000 miles, i took to dealer and had regular oil changes at prescribed intyervals. when they bumped up their price I went to valvolene quik change and first time in they checked oil when I drove in said it was low, everytime I went after that oil was low. so I checked for causes and came across problems with this engine, I beleive dealer knew of problem when sold to me. but they didnt check oil when I went to them, if I hadnt changed service people I never would have known Im all in for class action lawsuit.
Tony
January 20, 2023 at 7:51 amWe purchased a used 2018 (Ford Certified Pre-owned) with 36,600 miles on June 25, 2021. Six months later, at 41,600 miles, an oil change was done at a local shop. No mention of anything out of the ordinary was made. September 22, 2022, at 48,157 miles I changed the oil myself. I was prepared to catch nearly 9 quarts of used oil and was scratching my head when less than 4 quarts were in my drain pan. A quick internet search led me to this, and many other threads regarding the oil consumption issue. Five days later, on September 27, 2022, our local Ford Dealer completed the fix outlined in Technical Service Bulletin 19-2365. Mileage at time of service was 48,305. I was advised to monitor oil level every 500 miles and notify service department if consumption continued. I watched as the oil level dropped to the bottom of the dipstick hashmarks over the next 3 months/2,917 miles. On January 4, 2023, at 51,222 miles our vehicle was returned to our local dealer. They noted that the oil was 2.5 quarts low. Conversations between Ford Engineering and the Service Department continued as the mechanics investigated further. After about a week of this I asked for and was given a loaner vehicle. Shortly thereafter we were told that Ford greenlighted a new engine. The only problem is there is quite a backlog of people waiting for new 5L V8s. Yesterday I was informed the wait may be as long as 18 months!
We are currently in a Ford Explorer loaner. Whether or not they can ever get us in a courtesy truck remains to be seen. Even if they do get us a truck, I’m told we are not allowed to tow with a loaner vehicle. I do feel that our local Ford Dealer is doing what they can to accommodate and keep us informed. I should also note that at no time did our vehicle’s check engine or oil lights come on nor did the truck run rough in any way.
Mike
January 21, 2023 at 3:09 pmI purchased a 2018 Ford F-150 with the 5.0 engine used from Ford. The vehicle had 41,900 miles on it and at 44,700 the low oil pressure light came on. 5 quarts later it was full and I notified ford after putting 3k miles on it. Today I took into ford and they drained the oil and measured the amount filled in vehicle. They then poured oil back into the engine and sealed off system as in dipstick with tape. I have to bring it back in within 2K miles and let them check amount of oil in engine so they can determine oil consumption.
I am amazed they sold this truck to me and dealt with this dealer for many years. This vehicle was Gold Certified what a joke.
Eric
January 24, 2023 at 9:44 amI am in the same boat that is taking on water… Call Ford and request a buy back. I started the process in December and should get an offer in the next week. I bought mine with under 5,000 miles and that should have been my first clue. (I was told it would be an 8 month wait on a new engine). If the buy back is not a really good number, I may jump on board with the class action suit. Best of luck.
Cody
May 12, 2023 at 1:03 amI feel your pain exact same story here.
Robert Adsit
January 28, 2023 at 4:56 pmWhere do I sign up for the oil consumption law suit against ford. I have a 2020 ford f-150 v-8 5 liter engine pick up.Thanks, Robert Adsit
Christopher
February 17, 2023 at 8:13 amNothing you need to do at this point Mike. But I recommend either adding your complaint, or subscribing to this post for when news breaks.
Vaness
May 1, 2023 at 12:59 pmHow do you see if you are eligible for the lawsuit
Christopher Rossen
May 2, 2023 at 12:32 pmHi Vaness. If you own a 2018-2020 Ford F-150 is currently the only requirement.
Penney Hendricks
June 5, 2023 at 3:35 pmHow do I join the class action suit. I am so disappointed with my truck.
It is a 2019, bought it from a dealership in 2020. It had 33k miles on it.
For two months straight I have had to add 7 quarts each month, that seems to depend on how much driving I do. My truck now has 63K miles.
I am a recently widowed, 61 yr old lady that live up a 23 mile mountain road in NM. Clearly, it will lead to massive problems and me walking…
We have a way with coyotes out here.. wish I could get a engine other than a coyote. Thank you for any help in this matter.
Robert
March 12, 2023 at 5:12 pmI have a 2019 f150 that is doing the same thing. I noticed around 25k miles the inside of my exhaust Crome tip was jet black. Than I started getting that popcorn popping sound from engine. Noticed if I was going up a hill it would stay in 4th gear and rpms would go over 6k. Engine like came in. Tried to get it in a local ford dealer ship but it was gonna take 2 weeks so I brought it to the mechanic who works on my business vehicles. He said the oil was almost gone. He did a oil change and about 1500 to 2000 miles it started again. At 28k the local ford dealership took it in. They did oil change and said they didn’t check oil level so they told to bring it back after 3k mile and they will check oil. About 1000 miles I brought it back because it’s starting to make that popping sound when you hit 35 to 45 mph. They said they can’t hear anything. If you drive it with radio off you will hear it about 5 to 10 mins into your drive. Right now it’s does it but you really got to listen. The engine it’s self is riding harder. They are acting stupid.